Discussion:
Comcom ruling re telstraclear
Ian Batterbee
2005-12-19 22:02:49 UTC
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But anyway, the ComCom has ruled that TCNZ gives TCL access to full rate
DSL ("the maximum downstream speed available"), (everyone cheer!) with
an upstream rate of 128kbps (everyone groan!).

Article at
http://www.comcom.govt.nz//MediaCentre/MediaReleases/200506/telstraclearwillhavebitstreamacces.aspx
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Dave - Dave.net.nz
2005-12-19 22:12:00 UTC
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Post by Ian Batterbee
But anyway, the ComCom has ruled that TCNZ gives TCL access to full rate
DSL ("the maximum downstream speed available"), (everyone cheer!) with
an upstream rate of 128kbps (everyone groan!).
Article at
http://www.comcom.govt.nz//MediaCentre/MediaReleases/200506/telstraclearwillhavebitstreamacces.aspx
Havent seen it on the list, but the 128k up should still allow ~4Mbit down
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Juha Saarinen
2005-12-19 22:26:44 UTC
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Post by Ian Batterbee
Disclaimer - I have no idea if I'm the first to post this as I get the
list in digest form and the December archives aren't up yet so I can't
check for dupes first.
But anyway, the ComCom has ruled that TCNZ gives TCL access to full rate
DSL ("the maximum downstream speed available"), (everyone cheer!) with
an upstream rate of 128kbps (everyone groan!).
Article at
http://www.comcom.govt.nz//MediaCentre/MediaReleases/200506/telstraclearwillhavebitstreamacces.aspx
Note: 18 weeks leadtime after Jan 31 for the implementation.
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Juha Saarinen
2005-12-19 22:45:36 UTC
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Post by Ian Batterbee
Disclaimer - I have no idea if I'm the first to post this as I get the
list in digest form and the December archives aren't up yet so I can't
check for dupes first.
But anyway, the ComCom has ruled that TCNZ gives TCL access to full rate
DSL ("the maximum downstream speed available"), (everyone cheer!) with
an upstream rate of 128kbps (everyone groan!).
Article at
http://www.comcom.govt.nz//MediaCentre/MediaReleases/200506/telstraclearwillhavebitstreamacces.aspx
Note: 18 weeks leadtime after Jan 31 for the implementation.
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Juha Saarinen
2005-12-19 23:16:00 UTC
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Post by Ian Batterbee
Disclaimer - I have no idea if I'm the first to post this as I get the
list in digest form and the December archives aren't up yet so I can't
check for dupes first.
But anyway, the ComCom has ruled that TCNZ gives TCL access to full rate
DSL ("the maximum downstream speed available"), (everyone cheer!) with
an upstream rate of 128kbps (everyone groan!).
Article at
http://www.comcom.govt.nz//MediaCentre/MediaReleases/200506/telstraclearwillhavebitstreamacces.aspx
Note: 18 weeks leadtime after Jan 31 for the implementation.
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Brian Gibbons
2005-12-20 02:33:35 UTC
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Post by Ian Batterbee
But anyway, the ComCom has ruled that TCNZ gives TCL access to full rate
DSL ("the maximum downstream speed available"), (everyone cheer!) with
an upstream rate of 128kbps (everyone groan!).
The big issue for us is a reduction in reliability of an ADSL line when it
is churned from full rate to "DSLAM rate limited". A perfectly reliable full
rate line starts playing up when churned to 1mbit/128k and the only fix is
to ship a new router; the two to three year old routers don't seem to work
when rate limited down to such a low speed.

My guess is the overseas manufacturers of DSL routers never tested at 128k
as they never dreamed anyone would run them at below broadband speeds.

We have over 100 sites that require replacement routers before we can churn
them to UBS, a rather expensive exercise for these clients.

I can see 8mbit/128k being even less reliable.

As for the determination, we would have prefered that they kept the price
the same but made UBS "naked" i.e. run on dedicated copper. This eliminates
the need for a splitter, should be more reliable and would eliminate most of
the "admin" cost for ISPs.

Cheers

BG
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Juha Saarinen
2005-12-19 23:45:20 UTC
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Post by Ian Batterbee
Disclaimer - I have no idea if I'm the first to post this as I get the
list in digest form and the December archives aren't up yet so I can't
check for dupes first.
But anyway, the ComCom has ruled that TCNZ gives TCL access to full rate
DSL ("the maximum downstream speed available"), (everyone cheer!) with
an upstream rate of 128kbps (everyone groan!).
Article at
http://www.comcom.govt.nz//MediaCentre/MediaReleases/200506/telstraclearwillhavebitstreamacces.aspx
Note: 18 weeks leadtime after Jan 31 for the implementation.
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Juha Saarinen
2005-12-20 00:15:43 UTC
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Post by Ian Batterbee
Disclaimer - I have no idea if I'm the first to post this as I get the
list in digest form and the December archives aren't up yet so I can't
check for dupes first.
But anyway, the ComCom has ruled that TCNZ gives TCL access to full rate
DSL ("the maximum downstream speed available"), (everyone cheer!) with
an upstream rate of 128kbps (everyone groan!).
Article at
http://www.comcom.govt.nz//MediaCentre/MediaReleases/200506/telstraclearwillhavebitstreamacces.aspx
Note: 18 weeks leadtime after Jan 31 for the implementation.
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