Yup fully agree.. a mellow perspective is always needed.
In regards to the multiple vpn tunnels - I had this problem and someone
on the list helped me - in fact pointed me to a technical person I could
call. (maybe a bit of sales orientated stuff there but all good!!)
I needed confirmation of the model I was to buy could handle it's
application in the environment it needed to work in - not many people
have a need to have multiple users connect to a single VPN server from
the same adsl device(unless your a cheapie) - the m1122 and older dsl
routers could surprisingly.. mass market thing I guess.
It had to do with functionality needed to be built in to allow the
handling of the GRE protocol correctly.. MOST dsl routers will say they
handle multiple connections - a bit of a misnomer because they refer to
different vpn servers - not multiple connects to a single server..
BTW the USR robotics 9105 handles this with the latest firmware update -
available from uk usr robotics site - also supports ADSL 2 if you're
really keen..
An interesting technical point - alot of home users have come to me with
a general query - I just got DSL installed and it works for a while then
stops..
Further investigation it appears that the Xtra DSL pack they bought had
a Dlink modem in it - with Ethernet and USB capabilities. Yet the tech
installed using USB! I have converted so many people to Ethernet when
they have been originally installed using USB - Generally USB is pretty
reliable - but how many times have you experienced USB issues in
comparison to Ethernet?
Using the Ethernet connection also future proofs these home users - esp.
if they want to reinstall their PC or shift to another without any
install needed - not to mentioning adding a switch and tellings them how
to do it..
Mind you - the funniest thing that happens with alot of people buying
the packs is that their PC goes really slow after install.. hmmm...
further investigation reveals Spy ware / Vii and other little critters
that just love the added speed boost..
Hmm maybe Spybot and Adaware should be included?
Cheers
Iain.
Post by Neil GardnerChuckle - I think that DSL504 question was one of mine :-) And I never did
solve it either.
Yeah, I think one of the major reasons is that this list was instituted back
when ADSL was a bit of black magic, there were maybe 2-3 ADSL Routers on the
market and no-one really knew much about it. Now we have retail packs that
basically anyone can bring home, plug in and go - by following just a few
simple instructions. Some suppliers even have NZ presets for their routers
so people don't even need to be aware of VPI/VCI etc.
This is all a good thing though.
We now have a situation though where the political, ISP operational and
marketing issues of ADSL in NZ are FAR more salient to most 'power users'
than any technical issues. People being people still feel the need to whine
about these from time to time (and I'm no exception) and this is a fairly
decent place in which to do so.
I think given the general lack of any real ADSL technical issues that the
use of the list for other discussions isn't the end of the world that some
people obviously think it is. Why can't they just be happy that there aren't
any technical issues to talk about anymore (Generalisation - but you get my
point)
Cheers - Neil G
-----Original Message-----
Of Iain Johnston
Sent: Sunday, 12 December 2004 12:44 a.m.
Subject: Re: adsl-digest V1 #1372
This list is all good - but have wondered about the lack of technical
queries.. as in the old days. used to learn lots.. but I know I can still
rely on an answer from here.
questions like..
i.e. Having trouble getting multiple VPN tunnels to work with my DSL504G
- (go buy a decent router ahem).. It's all about GRE..
Sort of stopped reading the digest because there ain't much more than what's
on the net news!
well.. apart from personal drival like this post.
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