shutting down the list

[Dan Langille]

The ADSL mailing list has been quiet in 2007. This post will be the
16th post in 9 months.

Whatever the reasons, there isn't much traffic. If the list is no
longer required, and it appears it is not, it should be shut down.
There is not much sense in having it around if it's not useful.

The same applies to that chat and broadband lists. :)

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Available for hire: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php

[Wheeler M]

Hi

It has been useful in the past. Thanks to the host and providers of
information.

Cheers
Malcolm

-----Original Message-----
From: adsl-***@lists.unixathome.org
[mailto:adsl-***@lists.unixathome.org] On Behalf Of Dan Langille
Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2007 4:37 a.m.
To: ***@lists.unixathome.org
Subject: [adsl] shutting down the list

The ADSL mailing list has been quiet in 2007. This post will be the
16th post in 9 months.

Whatever the reasons, there isn't much traffic. If the list is no
longer required, and it appears it is not, it should be shut down.
There is not much sense in having it around if it's not useful.

The same applies to that chat and broadband lists. :)

--
Dan Langille - http://www.langille.org/
Available for hire: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php

[Neil Harsant]

Hi,
Yes - It has been a real asset at times.
Thanks to all who have managed and contributed to
this list.
Cheers,
Neil Harsant

On Thursday 27 September 2007 06:54, Wheeler M wrote:
> Hi
> It has been useful in the past. Thanks to the host and providers of
> information.
> Cheers
> Malcolm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: adsl-***@lists.unixathome.org
> [mailto:adsl-***@lists.unixathome.org] On Behalf Of Dan Langille
> Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2007 4:37 a.m.
> To: ***@lists.unixathome.org
> Subject: [adsl] shutting down the list
>
> The ADSL mailing list has been quiet in 2007. This post will be the
> 16th post in 9 months.
>
> Whatever the reasons, there isn't much traffic. If the list is no
> longer required, and it appears it is not, it should be shut down.
> There is not much sense in having it around if it's not useful.
>
> The same applies to that chat and broadband lists. :)

[j***@xtra.co.nz]

I agree,

In the world of progress, I suspect that forums (such as the ones at www.nzdsl.co.nz) are taking over the good ol mailing lists.

Thanks to all those useful posts to this list over the last 5 years

Jason


----- Original Message ----
From: Dan Langille <***@langille.org>
To: ***@lists.unixathome.org
Sent: Thursday, 27 September, 2007 4:36:33 AM
Subject: [adsl] shutting down the list


The ADSL mailing list has been quiet in 2007. This post will be the
16th post in 9 months..

Whatever the reasons, there isn't much traffic. If the list is no
longer required, and it appears it is not, it should be shut down.
There is not much sense in having it around if it's not useful.

The same applies to that chat and broadband lists. :)

--
Dan Langille - http://www.langille.org/
Available for hire: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php

[Mark Foster]

Indeed on both counts. I actually had the impression that DSL has been
'done to death' (at least the breed we currently run) and that the
technology is pretty well known and supported by the ISPs offering it.

Also, the media has (from my point of view) smartened up on broadband
issues over the last few years.

Interestingly I still see people accessing both
http://www.blakjak.net/adsl/ and http://www.blakjak.net/DSL which were
largely created due to traffic on this list, back in the day where
supporting DSL customers was a large portion of my work.

Question for you Dan: will the web archive remain extant?



- Mark.




On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 ***@xtra.co.nz wrote:

> I agree,

In the world of progress, I suspect that forums (such as the ones at www.nzdsl.co.nz) are taking over the good ol mailing lists.

Thanks to all those useful posts to this list over the last 5 years

Jason


----- Original Message ----
From: Dan Langille <***@langille.org>
To: ***@lists.unixathome.org
Sent: Thursday, 27 September, 2007 4:36:33 AM
Subject: [adsl] shutting down the list


The ADSL mailing list has been quiet in 2007. This post will be the
16th post in 9 months..

Whatever the reasons, there isn't much traffic. If the list is no
longer required, and it appears it is not, it should be shut down.
There is not much sense in having it around if it's not useful.

The same applies to that chat and broadband lists. :)

--
Dan Langille - http://www.langille.org/
Available for hire: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php

[Dan Langille]

On 27 Sep 2007 at 12:01, Mark Foster wrote:

> Question for you Dan: will the web archive remain extant?

Yes.

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Dan Langille - http://www.langille.org/
Available for hire: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php

[Raimund Eimann]

On Friday 28 September 2007 12:10, Dan Langille wrote:
> On 27 Sep 2007 at 12:01, Mark Foster wrote:
> > Question for you Dan: will the web archive remain extant?
>
> Yes.

I would have expected to see more activity on this list with the upcoming
unbundling. Is it really a good time to shut it down now?

Cheers,
Raimund

[Tom]

Dan Langille wrote:
> The ADSL mailing list has been quiet in 2007. This post will be the
> 16th post in 9 months.
>
> Whatever the reasons, there isn't much traffic. If the list is no
> longer required, and it appears it is not, it should be shut down.
> There is not much sense in having it around if it's not useful.
>
> The same applies to that chat and broadband lists. :)
>

[Craig Whitmore]

If needed I can run the mailing list if Dan/Everyone on the link is willing
to allow me to.

Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom" <***@homemachine.net>
To: <***@lists.unixathome.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [adsl] shutting down the list


>
>
> Dan Langille wrote:
>> The ADSL mailing list has been quiet in 2007. This post will be the
>> 16th post in 9 months.
>>
>> Whatever the reasons, there isn't much traffic. If the list is no
>> longer required, and it appears it is not, it should be shut down.
>> There is not much sense in having it around if it's not useful.
>>
>> The same applies to that chat and broadband lists. :)
>>
> _______________________________________________
> adsl mailing list
> ***@lists.unixathome.org
> http://lists.unixathome.org/mailman/listinfo/adsl
>

[Steve Phillips]

Craig Whitmore wrote:
> If needed I can run the mailing list if Dan/Everyone on the link is willing
> to allow me to.

Only if you run it on Majordomo and refuse to accept that things can be
improved when people suggest that there may be problems with the way
majordomo works ;-)

On a more serious note tho, the list archives - we really should
preserve those, I mean, how else are people going to find out what an
a** I am :-) - Craigs DSL website seems to logical place for those is
Craig is willing.

--
Steve.

[Brian Gibbons]

>From: "Steve Phillips" <***@focb.co.nz>
> On a more serious note tho, the list archives - we really should
> preserve those, I mean, how else are people going to find out what an
> a** I am :-) - Craigs DSL website seems to logical place for those is
> Craig is willing.

Good idea, the info is still useful, like we still have M11s out there :)

Cheers

BG

[Brian Gibbons]

>From: "Steve Phillips" <***@focb.co.nz>
> On a more serious note tho, the list archives - we really should
> preserve those, I mean, how else are people going to find out what an
> a** I am :-)

Wow, make sure that goes into the archive, might need a link to it one day
;)

Cheers

BG

[Morgan Nichol]

On 27/09/2007, Brian Gibbons <***@outersite.co.nz> wrote:
>
> >From: "Steve Phillips" <***@focb.co.nz>
> > On a more serious note tho, the list archives - we really should
> > preserve those, I mean, how else are people going to find out what an
> > a** I am :-)
>
> Wow, make sure that goes into the archive, might need a link to it one day
> ;)

Perhaps we could get t-shirts printed?

Cheers,
Morgan
--
Morgan Nichol
021 120 4727

[Craig Whitmore]

Craig Whitmore wrote:
> If needed I can run the mailing list if Dan/Everyone on the link is
willing
> to allow me to.

> Only if you run it on Majordomo and refuse to accept that things can be
> improved when people suggest that there may be problems with the way
> majordomo works ;-)

mailman or majordomo.. .....?

> On a more serious note tho, the list archives - we really should
> preserve those, I mean, how else are people going to find out what an
> a** I am :-) - Craigs DSL website seems to logical place for those is
> Craig is willing.

No problems at all. Just say when.. :-)

Thanks

[Morgan Nichol]

On 27/09/2007, Craig Whitmore <***@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
> If needed I can run the mailing list if Dan/Everyone on the link is willing
> to allow me to.

On the face of it, this would seem to be a good idea. Things could
possibly heat up a bit again when more providers start going the naked
route. (Though as has already been pointed out, this can probably be
addressed in a web forum.)

Cheers,
Morgan
--
Morgan Nichol
021 120 4727

[David Mill]

Or, for another offer from a hopefully robust host. Inspire Net would be
happy to host the list on their own mailman set-up.

Just an offer anyway.

Cheers
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: adsl-***@lists.unixathome.org
[mailto:adsl-***@lists.unixathome.org] On Behalf Of Morgan Nichol
Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2007 4:51 p.m.
To: Craig Whitmore
Cc: ***@lists.unixathome.org; Tom
Subject: Re: [adsl] shutting down the list

On 27/09/2007, Craig Whitmore <***@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
> If needed I can run the mailing list if Dan/Everyone on the link is
willing
> to allow me to.

On the face of it, this would seem to be a good idea. Things could
possibly heat up a bit again when more providers start going the naked
route. (Though as has already been pointed out, this can probably be
addressed in a web forum.)

Cheers,
Morgan
--
Morgan Nichol
021 120 4727

[Fran]

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Dan Langille wrote:
> The ADSL mailing list has been quiet in 2007. This post will be the
> 16th post in 9 months.
>
> Whatever the reasons, there isn't much traffic. If the list is no
> longer required, and it appears it is not, it should be shut down.
> There is not much sense in having it around if it's not useful.
>
> The same applies to that chat and broadband lists. :)

It's because there are no problems with ADSL anymore.

Whatever happens, thanks Dan, for your time and effort over the years.

Fran
:):):)

[Biff]

Just wait for unbundling, bound to be of use then :)
Biff

-----Original Message-----
From: adsl-***@lists.unixathome.org
[mailto:adsl-***@lists.unixathome.org] On Behalf Of Fran
Sent: Monday, 1 October 2007 3:04 p.m.
To: ***@lists.unixathome.org
Subject: Re: [adsl] shutting down the list

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Dan Langille wrote:
> The ADSL mailing list has been quiet in 2007. This post will be the
> 16th post in 9 months.
>
> Whatever the reasons, there isn't much traffic. If the list is no
> longer required, and it appears it is not, it should be shut down.
> There is not much sense in having it around if it's not useful.
>
> The same applies to that chat and broadband lists. :)

It's because there are no problems with ADSL anymore.

Whatever happens, thanks Dan, for your time and effort over the years.

Fran
:):):)

[Craig Whitmore]

So what's the decision? Keep it running at the same place? Move it? Or Shut
it down?

Thanks

[Stuart Whelan]

We should start a list to discuss this issue.

--
Kind Regards,
Stuart Whelan

Craig Whitmore wrote:
> So what's the decision? Keep it running at the same place? Move it? Or Shut
> it down?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> adsl mailing list
> ***@lists.unixathome.org
> http://lists.unixathome.org/mailman/listinfo/adsl
>

[Neil Gardner]

I say keep it running if there's no huge cost in money or time to do so...

We have not just unbundling, but the rollout of ADSL2+ which is
happening as we speak. Personally I'm surprised there hasn't been more
discussion about that on here so far.

Cheers - Neil G

On 02/10/2007, Craig Whitmore <***@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
> So what's the decision? Keep it running at the same place? Move it? Or Shut
> it down?

[Russell Fulton]

If Craig is happy to host it then fine let's keep it going.

Russell

Neil Gardner wrote:
> I say keep it running if there's no huge cost in money or time to do so...
>
> We have not just unbundling, but the rollout of ADSL2+ which is
> happening as we speak. Personally I'm surprised there hasn't been more
> discussion about that on here so far.
>
> Cheers - Neil G
>
> On 02/10/2007, Craig Whitmore <***@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
>
>> So what's the decision? Keep it running at the same place? Move it? Or Shut
>> it down?
>>
> _______________________________________________
> adsl mailing list
> ***@lists.unixathome.org
> http://lists.unixathome.org/mailman/listinfo/adsl
>

[Craig Whitmore]

I already have a machine with mailman ready to go... shouldn't take me long
to get it going when I have the registered users list.

Thanks


----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Fulton" <***@auckland.ac.nz>
To: "Neil Gardner" <***@neilnz.com>
Cc: <***@lists.unixathome.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [adsl] shutting down the list


> If Craig is happy to host it then fine let's keep it going.
>
> Russell
>
> Neil Gardner wrote:
>> I say keep it running if there's no huge cost in money or time to do
>> so...
>>
>> We have not just unbundling, but the rollout of ADSL2+ which is
>> happening as we speak. Personally I'm surprised there hasn't been more
>> discussion about that on here so far.
>>
>> Cheers - Neil G
>>
>> On 02/10/2007, Craig Whitmore <***@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
>>
>>> So what's the decision? Keep it running at the same place? Move it? Or
>>> Shut
>>> it down?
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> adsl mailing list
>> ***@lists.unixathome.org
>> http://lists.unixathome.org/mailman/listinfo/adsl
>>
> _______________________________________________
> adsl mailing list
> ***@lists.unixathome.org
> http://lists.unixathome.org/mailman/listinfo/adsl
>

[Aaron Pelly]

Sigh. This list, and you guys, were much help back in the day.

Thanks.

Aaron.

-----Original Message-----
From: adsl-***@lists.unixathome.org
[mailto:adsl-***@lists.unixathome.org] On Behalf Of Dan Langille
Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2007 4:37 AM
To: ***@lists.unixathome.org
Subject: [adsl] shutting down the list

The ADSL mailing list has been quiet in 2007. This post will be the
16th post in 9 months.

Whatever the reasons, there isn't much traffic. If the list is no
longer required, and it appears it is not, it should be shut down.
There is not much sense in having it around if it's not useful.

The same applies to that chat and broadband lists. :)

--
Dan Langille - http://www.langille.org/
Available for hire: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php

[Steve Phillips]

Aaron Pelly wrote:
> Sigh. This list, and you guys, were much help back in the day.
>
> Thanks.

I really tried extra hard not to be ! Honest !

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